This could be interesting. Regardless of the penalty, could this open up for a bunch of clubs that were impacted by the way of relegation etc. to sue the club for loss of earnings, stature or whatever the legal terms are?
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Manchester City Allegedly Broke Financial Fair Play Rules Soccer
Manchester City have been referred to an independent commission by the Premier League over alleged breaches of its financial rules.
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I think this will take years to resolve.
City's biggest concern right now could well be the imminent departure of Guardiola.
Hopefully, this investigation will be the beginning of the Premier League and other authorities taking the FFP rules seriously - the model right now is unsustainable and the money in football is crazy.
City's biggest concern right now could well be the imminent departure of Guardiola.
Hopefully, this investigation will be the beginning of the Premier League and other authorities taking the FFP rules seriously - the model right now is unsustainable and the money in football is crazy.
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Any other clubs involved in direct competition with City in the Premier League or Europe should be pushing this every step of the way. One club's cheating has cost them millions of pounds, it can be fairly argued.
The reason transfer outlay in world football has ballooned is that clubs who are expected to balance their books are being forced to compete with teams who theoretically can't go bankrupt, and as such you've got teams who've earned their money over decades like Barcelona actively destroying themselves to beat out the likes of Man City and PSG, and even financial titans like Man United are bargain shopping for Burnley strikers because they've had to spend so much to catch up….
The reason clubs have spent as much as Man City IS a product of their financial doping.
Not to mention that if a lot of these allegations are true, City have been paying people off the books, and therefore spending a lot more than is on the official record!
Also, it's sport, not the open market…
A department store might not get accused of financial doping when a billionaire ploughs loads of money into it, but a sports club in a league with a notion of fair sporting competition might.
Quality post Tom.
I'm not going to get to worked up about this until actual punishments are dished out. Still a long way to go before anything actually comes from it all, and plenty of time for City to manage to avoid any serious punishment.
I was listening to a few podcasts today about this and the more I hear and read, the more I think there may not be any severe punishment. We've seen them wriggle out of these sorts of allegations before and I'm sure they'll do it again.
I hope the Premier League has a stronger case than the UEFA one the other year but I'm not getting excited.
The other interesting debate of the podcasts was this could have a domino effect for other "big" clubs in Europe being investigated and may again lead to talk of the elite clubs threatening to break away to create a super league.
I hope the Premier League has a stronger case than the UEFA one the other year but I'm not getting excited.
The other interesting debate of the podcasts was this could have a domino effect for other "big" clubs in Europe being investigated and may again lead to talk of the elite clubs threatening to break away to create a super league.
Pep Guardiola has said Manchester City has "already been condemned" after the Premier League charged the club with more than 100 breaches of its financial rules following a four-year investigation.
The Premier League has referred City, the reigning champions, to an independent commission over alleged rule breaches between 2009 and 2018.
It has also accused City of not cooperating with its investigation, which started in December 2018.
Guardiola said on Friday: "My first thought is we are already being condemned, what's happened this week is the same as what happened with UEFA. We were condemned. The club proved we were innocent.
"So, you have to understand the Premier League is accusing us without providing the opportunity to defend.
"We are lucky we live in a marvelous country where everybody is innocent until proven guilty. What is going to happen, I don't know."
Guardiola also said he had no intention of quitting, adding: "I am not moving from this seat, I can assure you. I want to stay more than ever."
The Premier League has referred City, the reigning champions, to an independent commission over alleged rule breaches between 2009 and 2018.
It has also accused City of not cooperating with its investigation, which started in December 2018.
Guardiola said on Friday: "My first thought is we are already being condemned, what's happened this week is the same as what happened with UEFA. We were condemned. The club proved we were innocent.
"So, you have to understand the Premier League is accusing us without providing the opportunity to defend.
"We are lucky we live in a marvelous country where everybody is innocent until proven guilty. What is going to happen, I don't know."
Guardiola also said he had no intention of quitting, adding: "I am not moving from this seat, I can assure you. I want to stay more than ever."
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They weren't really innocent in the UEFA case though, were they? I thought it was a technicality?
One thing I do think is that State Ownership should definitely be banned. Talk of Qatar spending 5 billion on a second football club when they won't spend money on water or shelter for the people building their country is abhorrent.
The planned November start of an independent commission, scheduled to last 10 weeks, has reportedly been moved to mid-to-late September, with a verdict likely to be delivered early in 2025.
Neither the Premier League nor Manchester City have commented.
The report in The Times says the outcome of a separate legal case which City brought against the league's associated party transactions rules - in which clubs strike sponsorship or revenue deals with businesses linked to their owners - is due in the next fortnight.
That, it is claimed, has allowed the hearing into the 115 charges - which City deny - to be brought forward, barring any further legal delays.
Neither the Premier League nor Manchester City have commented.
The report in The Times says the outcome of a separate legal case which City brought against the league's associated party transactions rules - in which clubs strike sponsorship or revenue deals with businesses linked to their owners - is due in the next fortnight.
That, it is claimed, has allowed the hearing into the 115 charges - which City deny - to be brought forward, barring any further legal delays.
