In my view this doesn't (or, can't) end without the absolute end of the Putin era in Russia.
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Russian Invasion of Ukraine | A War in Europe After Hours
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International dynamics shift as war in Ukraine escalates
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The thread opens with urgent news regarding the Russian invasion of Ukraine, with multiple users expressing concern over escalating tensions and the need for diplomatic intervention. Discussions revolve around military movements and international responses, indicating a sense of imminent threat. Posts reflect a mix of apprehension about the situation and trust in Western allies to respond adequately.12
As the conflict intensifies, the tone shifts to debates about the effectiveness of NATO and the West's role in supporting Ukraine. Users highlight the complexities of potential peace negotiations, with differing opinions on whether Russia's demands can be met without compromising Ukraine's sovereignty. Some posts criticize Trump's approach to the situation, with concerns that he may appease Putin at Ukraine's expense.34
Amidst the chaos, there are ongoing discussions about the humanitarian crisis in Ukraine, with users sharing alarming reports of civilian casualties and the destruction of infrastructure. The narrative increasingly focuses on the need for sustained international support for Ukraine, emphasizing that failure to act could enable Russia further.56
The thread concludes with reflections on the diplomatic landscape, wherein public sentiments are expressed regarding the future of US support for Ukraine under Trump's leadership. There is apprehension about how shifting political dynamics might influence the ongoing conflict, with several users voicing skepticism about Russia's sincerity in proposed peace talks.78
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The discussion represents a deepening concern for Ukraine’s future, highlighting the significant diplomatic hurdles ahead. While there is a shared desire for peace, skepticism about international actors' commitments tempers optimism, leaving many uncertain about the conflict's trajectory.
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"Peace" talks have started on the Belarus border, Ukrainians asking for Russia to pull out and a ceasefire.
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich is in Belarus assisting the talks, at Kyiv's request..
"I can confirm that Roman Abramovich was contacted by the Ukrainian side for support in achieving a peaceful resolution, and that he has been trying to help ever since," Abramovich's spokesperson told the PA news agency.
"Considering what is at stake, we would ask for your understanding as to why we have not commented on neither the situation as such nor his involvement.
Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich is in Belarus assisting the talks, at Kyiv's request..
"I can confirm that Roman Abramovich was contacted by the Ukrainian side for support in achieving a peaceful resolution, and that he has been trying to help ever since," Abramovich's spokesperson told the PA news agency.
"Considering what is at stake, we would ask for your understanding as to why we have not commented on neither the situation as such nor his involvement.
It appears Liz Truss is taken more seriously in Russia than she is here.
Absolutely horrific stuff on Twitter showing the Kharkiv bombings. Dozens of civilians killed. I think that shows where these peace talks are heading unfortunately.
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It's indiscriminate bombing of civilian population centres. Starting to wonder how anything can be negotiated at this point without Putin going at the least. Ideally, he should be escorted to The Hague in handcuffs to stand trial for war crimes, but then so should many in recent years who have not.
Reports of a massive (27km/17m long) convey of Russian military descending on Kyiv. If that is true I cannot see how the Ukrainians can hold on to their capital. I fear the worst.
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It's only a matter of time before Kyiv falls I fear. I hope to god I'm wrong but the numbers just don't add up. Putin has everything in his favour. Without intervention from the west I fear this is the end of the Ukraine, at least for now. In the future who knows, it could be reborn as Putin fails to hold on to it
It is very likely Kyiv will fall sooner or later. They will not be able to hold it for forever and the sheer number of Russian troops still coming towards Kyiv, they are very likely to break through. The biggest question here I think is, what's next after they take Kyiv? I think it's doubtful now that they can take over entire Ukraine, especially the western part of it, since they had much more time to prepare than the other parts, so does Russia just stop there?
Kharkiv is another city that has come under heavy bombardment over the past few days with the government building there taking a direct hit this morning
Kharkiv is another city that has come under heavy bombardment over the past few days with the government building there taking a direct hit this morning
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I'd guess that the objective is to eliminate/exile Zelenskiy and prop up a puppet government.
The Ukrainians will fight for as long as they can even if Kyiv falls.
Awful in Kharkiv, it looks like the strike actually missed the target and hit Infront of the building.
Still in shock and can't get my head around this happening in Europe in 2022.
Russia will be isolated for a very long time after this. Putin has basically condemned this country to a slow and painful death - the world will not forget this for a long time.
The Ukrainians will fight for as long as they can even if Kyiv falls.
Awful in Kharkiv, it looks like the strike actually missed the target and hit Infront of the building.
Still in shock and can't get my head around this happening in Europe in 2022.
Russia will be isolated for a very long time after this. Putin has basically condemned this country to a slow and painful death - the world will not forget this for a long time.
That Kharkov airstrike is the kind of thing I was worried about. Just have to hope for a Moscow coup, don't know what else can stop this nonsense invasion.
