Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, August 28 - 30 Sportsbook

[Tom]

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Some rain predicted for next weekend, about 8 mm both on Saturday and Sunday and 17°C. Might shake things up a bit.

 

[Fraser]

Some rain predicted for next weekend, about 8 mm both on Saturday and Sunday and 17°C. Might shake things up a bit.

Hopefully, we get some rain, enough to make them change tyres and have some drama and not just run behind a safety car for X amount of laps

I have a feeling this year's Ferrari is going to get slaughtered on a monster track like Spa.

 

[8-Ball]

This has all the ingredients for another boring race. The Mercedes will escape and turn down the engines as long as this is allowed. RedBull in the middle and a midfield trying to bring the tyres home. I hope for rain, not because I like it, but because I am convinced that the race will not be interesting without it.

 

[Snoops]

Cannot see beyond more Mercedes domination at the moment. In the dry they will blitz everyone on this track, just too much power. In the wet given what we saw Lewis Hamilton do in a wet qualifying lap in Austria (and I know each race is different), that was beyond another level.

I can only see a decent midfield battle from Ablon's Redbull back to the Alpha Tauris. All those cars (McLaren, Renault, Racing Point, Ferrari etc) have been very even on Race pace. I do think this track presents some decent racing even more so after sleeping through Spain.

 

[Bandit]

1st Free practice - Fri 28 Aug 10:00 - 11:30
2nd Free practice - Fri 28 Aug 14:00 - 15:30
3rd Free practice - Sat 29 Aug 11:00 - 12:00
1st Qualifying - Sat 29 Aug 14:00 - 14:18
2nd Qualifying - Sat 29 Aug 14:25 - 14:40
3rd Qualifying - Sat 29 Aug 14:48 - 15:00
Race - Sun 30 Aug 14:10 - 16:10

Weather forecasts rain for Sunday afternoon but we've heard that one before

 

[Birdman]

Bit of a strange practice session, it didn't feel like there was much running. Ferrari stopped doing laps very early on, they just did out laps and back in.

Haas didn't run, engine related issues with both cars but not specified what it was.

Raikkonen only ran the Alfa towards the end. So lots of problems for the Ferrari powered teams. Still from 1st to 12th is only a separated by 1 second.

Pos	Driver	Team	Gap
1	Valtteri Bottas	Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team	1m44.493s
2	Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team	0.069s
3	Max Verstappen	Aston Martin Red Bull Racing	0.081s
4	Sergio Perez	BWT Racing Point F1 Team	0.136s
5	Lance Stroll	BWT Racing Point F1 Team	0.375s
6	Alexander Albon	Aston Martin Red Bull Racing	0.556s
7	Esteban Ocon	Renault DP World F1 Team	0.606s
8	Carlos Sainz Jr.	McLaren F1 Team	0.729s
9	Daniel Ricciardo	Renault DP World F1 Team	0.732s
10	Lando Norris	McLaren F1 Team	0.781s
11	Daniil Kvyat	Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda	0.954s
12	Pierre Gasly	Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda	1.010s
13	Kimi Raikkonen	Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN	1.211s
14	Charles Leclerc	Scuderia Ferrari	1.266s
15	Sebastian Vettel	Scuderia Ferrari	1.686s
16	Nicholas Latifi	Williams Racing	1.995s
17	George Russell	Williams Racing	2.077s
18	Kevin Magnussen	Haas F1 Team	-
19	Romain Grosjean	Haas F1 Team	-
20	Antonio Giovinazzi	Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN	-

 

[Son Of Jack]

Only tuning in now. Are Ferrari struggling that much or are they pushing at all?

 

[Fraser]

Only tuning in now. Are Ferrari struggling that much or are they pushing at all?

Yes, Ferrari appears to be very very poor here.

Second free practice times

Pos	Driver	Team	Gap
1	Max Verstappen	Aston Martin Red Bull Racing	1m43.744s
2	Daniel Ricciardo	Renault DP World F1 Team	0.048s
3	Lewis Hamilton	Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team	0.096s
4	Alexander Albon	Aston Martin Red Bull Racing	0.390s
5	Sergio Perez	BWT Racing Point F1 Team	0.393s
6	Valtteri Bottas	Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team	0.418s
7	Lando Norris	McLaren F1 Team	0.424s
8	Esteban Ocon	Renault DP World F1 Team	0.464s
9	Carlos Sainz Jr.	McLaren F1 Team	0.730s
10	Pierre Gasly	Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda	0.856s
11	Lance Stroll	BWT Racing Point F1 Team	0.934s
12	Daniil Kvyat	Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda	1.082s
13	Antonio Giovinazzi	Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN	1.117s
14	Kimi Raikkonen	Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN	1.152s
15	Charles Leclerc	Scuderia Ferrari	1.696s
16	George Russell	Williams Racing	1.719s
17	Sebastian Vettel	Scuderia Ferrari	1.939s
18	Nicholas Latifi	Williams Racing	2.030s
19	Romain Grosjean	Haas F1 Team	2.090s
20	Kevin Magnussen	Haas F1 Team	2.498s

 

[Random Guy]

Ferrari might struggle tomorrow to get into Q2. Both Alfa Romeo Racing cars are ahead of them with would indicate there seems to be a different underlying issue than the engine

 

[David76]

While it is obvious that Ferrari's issue isn't only the engine...all the Ferrari powered cars are at the bottom, in the company of the Williams (whose problem we know is NOT the engine).

That points out to the Ferrari PU being not just down on power, but miles behind - I had never seen that kind of complete wipeout ever, not even during the V12s vs V8s era. Whatever the "adjustment" they needed to do, it absolutely killed their whole project.

And Monza's gonna be even worse...

Only tuning in now. Are Ferrari struggling that much or are they pushing at all?

I think they planned some fast runs at the end of the session but we're scuppered by the red flag. Listening to th life timing I heard LeClerc's engineer say they were going to do some low fuel duns but LeClerc said he wanted to do high fuel instead.

It seems that they're struggling but the Alfas improved at the end of the session and finished ahead of them. I expect Ferrari to be significantly faster than the Alfas on actual pace. So I presume they struggled a lot and then didn't get to show their actual pace.

Vettel flat spotted both his front tyres on one corner. That suggests they're struggling.