US Elections 2024 After Hours

[Hera]

I don't think Harris ran a good campaign and the fact she is tied to the Biden presidency didn't help. But baming anyone doesn't really make sense, Trump improved with virtually everyone. This was a landslide.

America has spoken pretty clearly, they have seen what Trump is and what he offers, and they want that. If we are going to be serious about this whole defence of democracy thing, then we have to accept it when countries want to go a different direction too. This might be the US stepping into authoritarianism, but if so it is by popular demand.

I don't really care about what happens in America, why should I, it's the ramifications for the rest of the world that is worrying.

 

[Silverback]

Shame Biden didn't drop out earlier so they could choose a proper candidate. It was theirs to lose, and they lost.

TBF, the American people want what Trump offers and showed that in the polls last night.

 

[Tom]

Shame Biden didn't drop out earlier so they could choose a proper candidate. It was theirs to lose, and they lost.

TBF, the American people want what Trump offers and showed that in the polls last night.

Very true. It left Kamala Harris 16 weeks to do effectively a 12-18 month job. She also never faced a Primary.

Other issues Harris had were not mentioning much of policies and struggling to distance herself from the Biden administration.

 

[Franco Pinion]

 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854268139523170333

For all the emotionally charged complaints and blame going around this is probably the closest. Elections simply often come down to whether the incumbents deserve another term or not, irrespective of the quality of the other candidate.

A lot of it unfortunately has been circumstance but you can understand why people want a change and see the Democrats as having failed. So called progressive parties rarely survive economic trouble they'll always be a flip flop between left and right for that reason alone.

 

[Bob the Ninja]

I'm not a Trump fan but he's probably what America needs right now.

Whether he's what is needed on the world stage is a different matter and only time will tell.

The vast majority of Americans know that Trump isn't a good person, they just think he'll make things cheaper. For context, Britain is a nation of Romantics, which is a double-edged sword - Boris Johnson got in simply by being a court jester, but equally Trump wouldn't get anywhere near power because of his personality. America isn't. I was discussing this with a friend of mine yesterday and it basically degenerated into finding ever odder election pairings to pit against each other - i.e. a candidate of good character against a variety of film/TV/literature villains - but it probably wouldn't matter how terrible their deeds were if they were promising a better quality of life. It's not necessarily that it's "not seen as a character flaw" - it's just irrelevant.

I don't think the Harris or Democrats grasped that.

 

[Franco Pinion]

 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1854889068384973268

Interesting and possibly true.

However, the topic about inflation misses the point. Inflation may be down, but the damage has been done by prices rising under the Biden administration. That is what voters understand. Similarly, framing the border issue around crossings over the last few months is disingenuous at best.