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Russian Invasion of Ukraine | A War in Europe After Hours 

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Russia's invasion hardens into a long war of attrition and broken diplomacy
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Russian invasion sanctions Kyiv NATO ceasefire talks US aid

The thread opens with alarm as the invasion begins, quickly shifting from cautious speculation to shock and anger as reports confirm attacks on major Ukrainian cities. Early posts focus on troop buildups, civilian danger, NATO limits, and the belief that Russia has launched a war that will carry severe military, economic, and political costs.12

As the war grinds on, the discussion becomes dominated by battlefield updates, sanctions, atrocities, and repeated fears of escalation, including nuclear and chemical threats. Members debate the meaning of territorial gains and losses, condemn Russian propaganda, and increasingly frame the conflict as a struggle not just over land but over the survival of Ukrainian sovereignty.34

Later posts shift toward exhaustion with Western hesitation and then toward frustration at U.S. policy, especially under Trump, whose shifting positions on aid, ceasefires, and negotiations are treated as dangerously pro-Russian. The thread ends with a broad consensus that Ukraine cannot be forced into surrender terms, while Europe must become more self-reliant and skeptical of Washington's reliability.56

"In my view this doesn’t (or, can’t) end without the absolute end of the Putin era in Russia."

"We don't want this war and have never wanted it, But if Ukraine burns, your Moscow will burn too."

Verdict

No lasting resolution is reached, but the thread does crystallize a shared view that Russia's demands are unacceptable and that Ukraine's survival depends on sustained external support. The strongest agreement is on the need for Europe to harden its stance, while the biggest open wound remains whether the West can still shape the outcome.

David76 Rising Star
I feel it's 4 possible scenarios:

1. They're retreating tired and demotivated troops out from the North after hitting fierce resistance. That allows them to rearm and redeploy into areas they have had success (South and East).
2. They're retreating with the intention of launching chemical weapons at Kyiv (I don't think this will happen given the International outcry from it occurring).
3. They're retreating back with the intention to draw Ukraine out and stretch their forces. This will make them weaker overall and easier to overwhelm.
4. They're retreating to pull Ukraine forces South with the intention of drawing Ukraine forces South and East to then launch a new surprise attack from the North back towards Kyiv.

Unlikely it's 2, 1 makes sense given their initial blitzkrieg style attack failed hopelessly. 4 could make sense if they've managed to draw Belarus troops into the war. They could pull Ukraine troops away from Kyiv and then Belarus joins the war and tries to attack Kyiv as Russia did with a swift attack.

Personally, it's 1 and 3 for me.
 
K Contributor
Seeing the horrific images from Bucha today is a hard watch.

Ukraine shouldn't negotiate any compromises whatsoever with this lot. We should support them every step of the way, with arms and sanctions, in regaining their 2014 borders and joining NATO. If Russia come out of this with anything other than their tail between their legs they will do it again.
 
John Steed Contributor
The whole world needs to condemn what the Russians are doing and have done to innocent civilians and children. It needs to stop now.

The whole world needs to act as one………but they won't.

Even some of our European neighbours have gone quiet recently.
 
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Dylan Experienced
Because under article 6 of the United Nations charter, to expel a nation requires that the General Assembly (that's all member countries) vote for the expulsion following a recommendation of the Security Council (that's 15 countries).

But the Security Council has Russia as a permanent member with a veto, so the expulsion of Russia would require that Russia agrees to being expelled.
 
Dylan Experienced
Seeing the horrific images from Bucha today is a hard watch.
This image of a woman walking through the streets of Bucha will feature on the front pages of many newspapers tomorrow morning.

The footage of dead bodies lying on streets and the accounts of those who have survived are truly horrific.
 

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Gemma Mentor
I really thought in a modern society these kind of atrocities were a thing of the past, clearly not.

Some of these videos and images are horrific. Absolutely beyond comprehension what has gone on.
 
Dylan Experienced
This is quite frightening, an opinion piece published in state media RIA Novosti - in particular for its insights on Moscow's apparent aims in Ukraine.
  • "Besides the elite, a significant part of the masses of the people, who are passive Nazis, are accomplices to Nazism. They have supported the Nazi authorities and indulged them."
  • "The just punishment for this part of the population is possible only as the bearing of the inevitable hardships of a just war against the Nazi system."
  • "The name Ukraine can seemingly not be retained as the title of any fully denazified state formation on the territory liberated from the Nazi regime."
  • "The social 'swamp' which actively and passively supports it must undergo the hardships of war and digest the experience as a historical lesson and atonement."
 
Dylan Experienced
I dread to think about what will be uncovered in Mariupol once this has all played out.
 
Sad Professor Enthusiast
I dread to think about what will be uncovered in Mariupol once this has all played out.
I hope this isn't true but given what we have seen so far then I believe we have yet to witness the worst.

 https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1511018102913474562



The G7 Need to start putting sanctions/pressure on anyone supporting this vile regime, including the ones who abstain, it is not acceptable to play both sides for economic gain. We need to show it won't be tolerated.
 
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